There is thin line between drawing and painting. The start may be similar, a beginning with outlines and shapes, regardless the surface they are depicted on. Stains and shapes come and go, where colors and forms remain diffuse and less intense in one, they become more pronounced in others: drawing and painting may intertwine. I draw with water, dye, pigments, coffee, charcoal and mud, I paint with dye, pigments, coffee mud, water and oil. In both I'm my using fingers, pencils, sticks, sprays and brushes.